Comments on: If I Needed Someone https://www.beatlesbible.com Not quite as popular as Jesus... Mon, 01 Apr 2019 15:50:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.1 By: David R https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-500841 Tue, 19 Feb 2019 02:45:29 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-500841 In addition, one has to assume that Beatles, Braintrust, Inc., a/o Harrisongs, gave permission to the Hollies to record George’s song. Not like they stole it. Given how few of George’s songs made it onto Beatle records, you can imagine him giving consent. And you can imagine that after the Beatles heard the cover they rushed to get it recorded and put on Rubber Soul, probably realizing they (maybe, more accurately, John and Paul) underestimated the song. Besides, it is my understanding that the Beatles and the Hollies BOTH recorded at Abbey Road, so it is conceivable that bandmembers ran into and talked to each other on ocassion.

]]>
By: Raymond M George https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-490750 Mon, 24 Dec 2018 03:49:07 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-490750 Almost ALL The Beatles Music was inspired by American influennce]

Two example …..”Good Day Sunshine” from Lovin Spoonfuls Day Dream and “The Long And Winding Road From Simon and Garfunkels “Bridge Over Troubled Waters “

]]>
By: JFrench https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-451640 Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:44:18 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-451640 I’m sure they preferred both versions to Olivia Newton John’s, hah

]]>
By: JFrench https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-451639 Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:40:16 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-451639 Well played, Kelvin!

]]>
By: Hennyon https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-450972 Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:21:57 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-450972 It’s an amazing song, and surely one of the best Harrison wrote during his Beatles years. Just listen to those magnificent off-beat three-part harmonies and that truly glorious ending. And his guitar work is nothin short of superb throughout.
Fantastic harrisong! 😉

]]>
By: Paolo https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-449627 Fri, 21 Oct 2016 11:41:47 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-449627 It does sounds like something he might have said off the cuff, commenting the record with friends, and a journalist then embellished and wrote it down, without his consent. Let’s face it, he’s pretty much spot on, they do sound like a backing band of sessionmen. You can understand why John hated the Hollies (apart from being mancunians!): great musicians, but always stayed on the safe side and rarely took any chances musically.

]]>
By: David Reynolds https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-448898 Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:29:28 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-448898 A song that once gets into your head, is hard to get out of. Fantastic.

]]>
By: Semolina Pilchard https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-448421 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 13:00:33 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-448421 “The Hollies”? Really? All these characters wasted on thebeatlesbible.com on “The Hollies”? How “The Turtles”? Anyone want to drone on about how “talented, yet misunderstood” that paedophile monster John Philips was (seeing as someone through in the “McGuinn and McGuire…” lyric above)? Some of the Monkees were invited to sit in on Beatles sessions, maybe we could create a new daily subsection on groups fronting actual work performed by the Wrecking Crew?

Can we stick to Beatles?

]]>
By: Graham Paterson https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-448400 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:11:55 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-448400 This is one of my favorite of George Harrison Beatles songs.Great harmonies and lyrics. George’s 12 string electric guitar work is brilliant. This would have been a big hit if released as a single, but adds just another great song to the brilliant “Rubber Soul” album. The Byrds were very influenced by The Beatles and in turn The Beatles were similarly influenced by the Byrds as this song proves.

]]>
By: Freschcookies21 https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-448061 Mon, 07 Mar 2016 05:06:43 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-448061 @BeatleCharlie. Thanks for your rec on the Tokyo concert. Those harmonies are a thing of beauty! And you’re right, what a shame it’s not on the album (or LP as a 24 year-old Paul would say, bless him).

]]>
By: Rembert https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-446804 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:04:54 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-446804 This song is a fine example for the “bass-revolution” that happened, when the bassist and the producer stuck their heads together. For a direct comparison play a “Harrisong” form “Help!” e.g. “I need you” and try to get as much bass as possible from your equipment. Then with the same adjustment play this song. It also works for “In my life”. Kind regards!

]]>
By: Graham Paterson https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-446793 Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:20:44 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-446793 Another great song off the classic”Rubber Soul ” album. George Harrison really blossomed as a songwriter in this period.From the moment I first heard “Rubber Soul” I loved this song, especially the harmonies and guitar.

]]>
By: Andre https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-446597 Thu, 24 Sep 2015 23:59:01 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-446597 Paul’s harmony in the 1966 show is the same he did in I want to tell you.

]]>
By: Wilhelm https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-446498 Mon, 14 Sep 2015 17:35:44 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-446498 Love this song but feel that the production is a bit under-done here. I think this song would have benefited from a heavier, more psychedelic approach similar to “rain” or “paperback writer”. In fact I think IINS mIght count as the first psychedelic song by the Beatles, although the production is too understated.

]]>
By: Jeff https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-445372 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:50:21 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-445372 re charity work:

The Hollies were doing charity shows for children along with fellow artists back in 1965-66….

Graham Nash’s final sixties Hollies concert at The London Palladium was ‘The Save Rave’ on 8 December 1968….
that was a charity concert for the underprivileged children’s charity

both Beatles ‘Across The Universe’ (original version) and Hollies ‘Wings’ were included on the budget charity LP;
‘No One’s Gonna Change Our World’ released in November 1969 by EMI’s Starline label, to raise funds for The World Wildlife Fund.

The Hollies also donated ‘Stop Stop Stop’ to a follow up EMI Charity LP too.

Later they wrote & recorded ‘Find Me A Family’ (1989) as theme song for the TV show; ‘Find A Family’ that sought homes for orphaned children

while a branch of the New York Fire Dept later adopted The Hollies version of ‘He Ain’t Heavy…He’s My Brother’ as their anthem post 9/11

So The Hollies have “done their bit” for charities too, and were doing charity concerts at the same time as The Beatles did in the early sixties.

]]>
By: Jeff https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-445371 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:35:57 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-445371 For the record – it was Beatles producer George Martin who suggested The Hollies cover George’s ‘If I Needed Someone’ (Martin & Hollies producer Ron Richards were close colleagues at EMI)
Graham Nash opposed The Hollies covering the song (like ‘Sing Dylan’ a few years later) but was out voted

The Hollies ‘rocked it up’ where as The Beatles version was a gentler ‘Byrds-ish’ approach purely an album track

George Harrison (then just prior to his wedding to Patti) was caught by a UK music paper writer just prior to going onstage in Glasgow (so George may have had both pre-wedding nerves & pre-show ones too) he said he disliked the way The Hollies had done his song because the guy asked if he had written if FOR The Hollies (which annoyed George)

George’s ‘souless sessionmen’ remark WAS out of order (Bobby Elliott could blast Ringo offstage, Hicks was as good a guitarist as George, Eric Haydock was a faster bass player than Paul using a six string bass !)

Clarke-Hicks-Nash harmonies were even more powerful vocally than The Beatles (hence The Hollies not Beatles were tagged ‘Britain’s answer to The Beach Boys’ by the press – that might have miffed the very ‘touchy’ John Lennon – who used to vocally ‘attack’ anyone he perceived as being a “threat” – as both Paul & Yoko later felt: ‘How Do You Sleep ?’ / ‘Move Over Ms. L’ !)

The Hollies worked in the studio a more ‘workmanlike’ manner – often nailing a hit single in a few takes (unlike The Beatles) which might have given George a wrong impression re their musical ability

whatever George’s negative remarks STOPPED The Hollies single selling (it stalled at no.20 in the UK chart)

– tho’ The Hollies had, nevertheless, put a Harrison song into the UK Top Twenty in 1965 (George never managed that himself until ‘Something’ in 1969 !)

The Hollies Top Twenty hit hit cover DID give George’s songwriting a big boost in the eyes of George Martin (he got to lead off ‘Revolver’ with ‘Taxman’) and John & Paul must have taken note

at his wedding press conference George had a ‘dig’ at the music press writer (who asked if he’d invited The Hollies ? – to press laughter) saying he wished the guy hadn’t written what he’d said (George learning a lesson as he cut off his own royalties from the single !)

Paul healed any lingering ‘friction’ between the EMI groups when he praised up ‘I Can’t Let Go’ the next Hollies single – Lennon invited Nash to singalong on ‘All You Need is Love’ (they remained friends with the designers of The Hollies LP ‘Evolution’ sleeve Simon & Marjike then doing ‘Sgt Pepper’ cover with Peter Blake in 1967)

Later John praised up The Hollies single ‘Hey Willy’ (1971) when he did a disc review saying ‘it will shoot up the charts like a rocket’ (which proved wrong as that one stalled at no.22 !)

Paul & Linda loaned The Hollies their ‘Band on The Run’ synth’ for ‘Another Night’ (1975) so there was no real ‘rift’ between them after 1965…

Later Hollie Terry Sylvester from Liverpool once worked for George’s brother

George lived near to Tony Hicks later & their sons Dhanni & Paul Hicks are good friends

]]>
By: Free_Phi https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-443625 Fri, 06 Feb 2015 19:29:53 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-443625 One of the few tracks of the era where the stereo mix bests the mono. The biggest advantage in stereo is during the instrumental break: there is a great deal of intricate mid-range guitar work, as well as a great low part by John in the three-part harmonized wash of “aaaaah”s that get completely wiped out in mono by the overly-bright and -loud top strings of the electric guitar.

]]>
By: Ed https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-443418 Fri, 23 Jan 2015 02:36:54 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-443418 I really don’t think George Harrison would have said anything bad about anyone’s musicianship , I think he would have been happy that someone was playing his music.

]]>
By: Louie https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-443210 Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:54:04 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-443210 In defense of The HOLLIES, Tony Hicks, is without question a legendary guitar wizard. And Bobby Elliott, is a world class drummer, but to be fair, The Hollies version by comparison sounds well, a bit ” tinny”, if you will, and not quite as rich & full as The Beatles recording. The Hollies Producer Ron Richards, is probably the culprit here. Additionally, I do believe it has been revealed that George, never made those comments and that they were issued by a publicist to create a stir and sell periodicals. Graham Nash, is known to have been present at subsequent Beatles endeavors. George’s son Dhani and Tony Hicks, son Paul, are long time childhood friends who grew up across the street from each other They are in a band together called The Newno2 Additionally, Paul Hicks has won Grammy awards for his work remastering the Beatles catalog. Don’t buy into the hype. It’s only hype. 😉

]]>
By: Johnny Aitken https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/comment-page-1/#comment-440008 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:47:16 +0000 http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/if-i-needed-someone/#comment-440008 Roger McGuinn admited himself on stage many a time that he was inspired by The Beatles when re arranging Bob Dylans Mr Tambourine Man

]]>